When two brilliant researchers with nearly a century of experience and experiments between them, agree on the commonalities of their findings on consciousness, a truly fascinating discussion follows!

In this interview, Stephan Schwartz, interdisciplinary scholar, remote viewing research founder, and one of the preeminent remote viewers in the world, and Tom Campbell, physicist and consciousness researcher, each present their views on how science and their discoveries on consciousness can help inspire you to create a better world.

Stephan reviews his earlier project, starting in 1978, of asking remote viewers to describe life in the year 2050. Recently he initiated a new project to look at the year 2060, so that it could be compared to his 2050 results. He describes his careful use of consensus methodology in remote viewing. Furthermore, he is now able to take advantage of several analytical tools involving “big data” that were not available for the earlier research. Preliminary results suggest that, by 2060, society will have adjusted to an enormous transformating occuring between 2040 and 2045. New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in “parapsychology” ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death.